<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459</id><updated>2012-01-29T18:21:10.579-08:00</updated><category term='archery exercises'/><category term='thumbring training'/><category term='archery training'/><category term='thumbring'/><category term='archery quotes'/><category term='how to string a bow'/><category term='Ottoman archery'/><category term='archery muscles'/><category term='turkish bow'/><category term='Turkish archers'/><category term='Turkish archery'/><category term='bow stringing'/><category term='arrow speed'/><category term='bow bracing'/><title type='text'>Turkish Flight Archery</title><subtitle type='html'>Even after the bow and arrow have left the battlefields, Turkish archery was still practiced by the Ottoman Turks in form of Flight Archery. For this, special bows, arrows and overdraws (siper) were used. This page is all about Turkish flight archery, its history, equipment, training methods and famous masters.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>9</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-2135487640994755215</id><published>2011-12-15T09:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T06:09:01.863-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thumbring'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='turkish bow'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='arrow speed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ottoman archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archers'/><title type='text'>What is Turkish archery?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;What is Turkish/Ottoman archery?&lt;br /&gt;Let's think a bit...&lt;br /&gt;Is it using a thumbring? Is it shooting with modern material bows which resemble the Ottoman bow form? Is it shooting off a horse? Is it shooting with shouting 'Ya Hakk'? And the arrows? Is it shooting carbon arrows or European modern style wooden arrows with a thumbring? Or does it count to be Turkish archery if just a Turk does archery?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Turkish/Ottoman archery drew the attention of many European researchers and travellers e.g. Busbeq or Payne Gallwey. It was perceived as superior to the archery of other cultures. The Mughals, Mamluks, Chinese/Manchu etc all can be classified in the Asian archery school, but the Ottomans developed this the furthest. So what is so superior to archery of other cultures? What did the Ottomans succeed with?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Below on the left I listed characteristics of Turkish/Ottoman archery. It is possible to summarize them to 4 factors: thumbdraw, arrow, bow and the archer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j-3MDTHBzjQ/Tu5oVhK42pI/AAAAAAAAJ5k/91M_8wTek1U/s1600/Turkish+archery+factors.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j-3MDTHBzjQ/Tu5oVhK42pI/AAAAAAAAJ5k/91M_8wTek1U/s640/Turkish+archery+factors.png" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Factors:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Thumbdraw&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thumbdraw, Thumbring use&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. Arrow&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tapered shafts, Light arrows, Flat feathers, High spine arrows&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. Bow&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Short bow, Composite bow, Light bow arms, 100 lbs+ drawweights&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;4. Archer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shooting technique&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All these factors have a common characteristic, they increase the arrow speed. The standard measurement for archery is feet per second (FPS). The biggest distinguishment of Turkish archery is that the arrow is propelled with far greater speed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;a) Low trajectory&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(=lower=straighter flight path of the arrow). With a lower arrow trajectory you dont need to aim so high for targets that are further away. This also has many advantages. It will be easier to aim at targets at different distances, the elevation of the bow arm to hit a target at 20m and at 50 m will be minimised. This is a big advantage on the battlefield which will increase the hit rate dramatically. The theoretical exaggerated example would be an arrow flying as straight as a laser, then you could hit a target at 20m and at 200 with the same elevation in the bow arm. Also hitting targets from the horse will be easier. Imagine that your opponents might be (most likely) cavalry as well. On the horse when you shoot to the left, usually you would (instinctively) aim a bit to the left of the target considering the speed of the horse. With a high arrow speed and low arrow trajectory, this parallel aiming would be also reduced to a minimum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;b) Greater maximum range&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is especially important for flight shooting. According to Adam Karpowicz's research, the record shot of Tozkoparan Iskender (845 meters) was done with a 140-150 lbs bow and an arrow speed way over 350 fps. On the other hand, the max range in battle should not be disregarded completely. Armour was expensive, not every soldier could afford it and even less people could afford armour for their horse. Increasing the maximum range of war arrows on the battlefield against unarmoured opponents is an important advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;c) Greater armour piercing range&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is also an important point, of course it depends on the quality of the armour, but let's assume the max range for piercing a certain quality of armour was 30m, maybe with Ottoman style archery this effective armour piercing range was increased to 50m..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;d) Higher armour piercing capability&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Higher armour piercing ability means you can pierce thicker and better quality armour. A good example of a miniature showing pierced armour of a European knight:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmbV4Qv3QXY/Tu9aMdLsOwI/AAAAAAAAJ5w/4qxnn8qkADI/s1600/Turk-atli-Okcusu-zirh-deliyor2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="343" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmbV4Qv3QXY/Tu9aMdLsOwI/AAAAAAAAJ5w/4qxnn8qkADI/s400/Turk-atli-Okcusu-zirh-deliyor2.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lets have a loo&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;k at Newton's second law:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;F=m*a &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(F=Force, m=mass, a=acceleration)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;That means:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;force =&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;arrow weight * arrow speed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;This model is a very very basic approach disregarding many other factors but still it helps to understand.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;To increase the arrows (armour piercing) force you can either increase the mass of the arrow, or the speed of the arrow. The Manchu and English went a different path with their long bows, long drawlength and heavy arrows. Increasing the weight of the arrow is easier. In this way the arrows will have greater armour piercing abilities too. The Ottomans however went a step further, the highest point in the evolution of archery - &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;speed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;(For example arrow speeds of Ottoman war, target and flight bows see&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.atarn.org/islamic/akarpowicz/turkish_bow_tests.htm" style="line-height: 18px;" target="_blank"&gt;Adam Karpowicz's tests&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;The Ottomans have increased the arrow speed by optimising and improving the bow and the equipment. Even if we assume as a theoretical example that the armour piercing ability of Manchu/English and Ottoman war archery styles was the same, the Ottomans would have gained important advantages on the battlefield (lower trajectory and greater max range as explained above).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;Gokmen Altinkulp&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-2135487640994755215?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/2135487640994755215/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-is-turkish-archery.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/2135487640994755215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/2135487640994755215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-is-turkish-archery.html' title='What is Turkish archery?'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j-3MDTHBzjQ/Tu5oVhK42pI/AAAAAAAAJ5k/91M_8wTek1U/s72-c/Turkish+archery+factors.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-7919408682658469573</id><published>2011-08-19T06:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-22T00:57:32.403-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thumbring'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thumbring training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ottoman archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery exercises'/><title type='text'>Archery for all - Keeping you on target</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;In Feb 2011 Jehad Shamis invited me kindly to take part in his archery classes, meet his students and share some knowledge.&amp;nbsp;Here is a short video:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="338" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/26835828?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" width="601"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/26835828"&gt;Arrow and Bow: The Revival of Turkish Archery&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/mansur"&gt;Mansoor Suleman&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With powerpoint presentations I first gave a bit of theoretical and historical insight.&amp;nbsp;The topics were mainly the different disciplines and equipment of the Turkish/Ottoman archery style.&amp;nbsp;And of course afterwards we practiced all together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jehad is teaching and promoting archery and thumbring archery in the London area and beyond. He is not tied to one training location but rather flexible and teaching also in schools for example. But I am absolutely thrilled by the number of students he is teaching and their skills.&amp;nbsp;I visited 4 groups on 2 days and was astonished how many students he has. He has more students than any of the thumbring archery groups in Turkey! Besides he dedicates all his time to this, he is a full time archery instructor. And he does all this silently, patiently and stays down to earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If anybody in &lt;b&gt;England &lt;/b&gt;wants to join his groups or just wants to have a chat about archery and thumbring archery in particular, here are the contact details:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jehad Shamis&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;''Archery for all - Keeping you on target''&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Phone number: 07915934732&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="https://plus.google.com/102231529167207894658" rel="author"&gt;Gokmen Altinkulp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-7919408682658469573?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/7919408682658469573/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/08/archery-for-all-keeping-you-on-target.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/7919408682658469573'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/7919408682658469573'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/08/archery-for-all-keeping-you-on-target.html' title='Archery for all - Keeping you on target'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-1750241596832213482</id><published>2011-08-18T14:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-19T01:01:03.616-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='turkish bow'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ottoman archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bow stringing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bow bracing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='how to string a bow'/><title type='text'>How to string a Turkish bow</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;How to string a Turkish bow?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mcAX_i3NHV4/Tk4YMQwIIFI/AAAAAAAAIGI/yoWWX3ioh0I/s1600/kemend+Turkish+archery+bow+stringer.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mcAX_i3NHV4/Tk4YMQwIIFI/AAAAAAAAIGI/yoWWX3ioh0I/s1600/kemend+Turkish+archery+bow+stringer.png" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The old Turks write that there is 120 ways to string a bow. Ottoman bows are strung the safest with a device called ''kemend''. This is especially important for high poundage, extremely reflex and delicate bows.&lt;br /&gt;Otherwise if these bows are strung normally e.g. with the step through method, the bow arms might turn and twist and might destroy the bow or hurt you. Because with this system the leg muscles are used, every bow can be strung. In this video I string and unstring my 110 lbs Kassai Hungarian bow:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BVPs9zRASfU?rel=0" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Making a kemend&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The material for a kemend must be very strong, otherwise it can tear and your bow might be damaged or might get hurt. The kemend in the Topkapi collection is made of 'ibrishim' meaning raw silk thread. According to Taybogha a kemend should be 3 fingers wide. Mustafa Kani writes in his book, less than 3 fingers wide and the length according to the person using it. According to Unsal Yucel there is a kemend in the Topkapi palace museum. It is 4cm wide and 255cm long (see pic. below). The loop on one side is small, the other loop is wider, you can even adjust it with a knot. The second loop is bigger as the string has to go through it while stringing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j3zIN7tMwYA/Tk2A_WZ8D7I/AAAAAAAAIF8/pqGt0LzujMg/s1600/Kemend+for+Turkish+bows-Topkapi+palace+museum.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j3zIN7tMwYA/Tk2A_WZ8D7I/AAAAAAAAIF8/pqGt0LzujMg/s320/Kemend+for+Turkish+bows-Topkapi+palace+museum.jpg" width="249" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I used a band which the bed/couch makers use. For my second kemend (the orange one) I used an industry band to pull heavy loads. The latter is 5cm wide and 240cm long. The reason for the width is firstly durability but secondly so it will not hurt your back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_AHCbH4byOA/Tk2BLyHzrwI/AAAAAAAAIGA/TroMl6I-q2k/s1600/ottoman+kemend+for+bows-+bowstringer.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_AHCbH4byOA/Tk2BLyHzrwI/AAAAAAAAIGA/TroMl6I-q2k/s320/ottoman+kemend+for+bows-+bowstringer.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another way, if you dont have a sewing machine (nor the patience) you can make a kemend in a very easy way. Just make a know at each end of the band. This method has another advantage, you may not find your optimal length immediately, if there is a knot you can open it and adjust it easily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Stringing the bow with your kemend&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You put the kemend around your back as if a belt and cross the two ends in front of you. You prepare the bow in front of you. You place the string loop in one of the bow nocks. Then you place the small loop of the kemend into the same nock and place the big kemend loop in the other nock. In a sitting position you place both feet on each side next to the bow grip. Now you hold the 'bash' section of the bow with your hands and start pushing gently with your legs. During this movement it is very important to control the bow with your hands/feet so it doesnt turn and twist. After a certain point when you think you pulled enough to string the bow you let your hands go. You guide the string through the big kemend loop and place the string on the nock. The length of the kemend has to fit you exactly. When you stretch your legs you just have to have enough room to string the bow. When you want to unstring the bow you do all the steps again but backwards, so first push the bow with your legs and hold with the kemend so that you can unstring it. Then hold again with your hands and gently go back with your legs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The loops of my orange kemend are big, of course they dont fit the nocks but it is very handy also with this type. Instead of the nocks, you place the kemend loops between the kasan and the bash sections and string the bow the same way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A small but important tip: while you are sitting, wrap the kemend low rather than placing it at belt height. This way you can use the forces better and the kemend will not hurt your back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gokmen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="https://plus.google.com/102231529167207894658" rel="author"&gt;Gokmen Altinkulp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-1750241596832213482?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/1750241596832213482/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-string-turkish-bow.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/1750241596832213482'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/1750241596832213482'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-string-turkish-bow.html' title='How to string a Turkish bow'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mcAX_i3NHV4/Tk4YMQwIIFI/AAAAAAAAIGI/yoWWX3ioh0I/s72-c/kemend+Turkish+archery+bow+stringer.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-9175620066225832804</id><published>2011-03-16T10:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-12T06:34:53.455-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ottoman archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery quotes'/><title type='text'>Favourite Turkish archery quotes</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;As archery had a big place in Turkish society, many proverbs and expressions are archery related.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;These are my top favourites:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Archery is a trouble, only the one who endures it knows.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Okçuluk bir beladır, onu çeken bilir)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;p:colorscheme colors="#ffffff,#000000,#808080,#000000,#bbe0e3,#333399,#009999,#99cc00"&gt;&lt;/p:colorscheme&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="O" v:shape="_x0000_s1026"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;It is not the wind, the bow nor the archer, it is only God, who brings your arrow to its target/distance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Ne hava ne keman, ve ne kemankeş, ancak erdiren menziline tiri nida-yı Ya Hak)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;If you leave archery one day, it will leave you 10 days&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Sen okçuluğu bir gün bırakırsan o seni 10 gün bırakır)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;4. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;A hungry wrestler is more desirable/successful, but an archer with a full stomach is more&amp;nbsp;desirable/successful&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Pehlivanın açı, kemankeşin toku makbuldur)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;5.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Who shoot arrows shoots gold&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Ok atan altın atar)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;A flight record is not shot by force, it is shot by art/skill/ability&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Menzil zor ile atılmaz, sanat ile atılır)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;7.&amp;nbsp;The worst thing is to try to shoot as well as your previous shot&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n1NK3A3Y3Es/TYDxANoUBhI/AAAAAAAAHiI/jtagqlxmKgs/s1600/Sipahi+ve+Yeniceri.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n1NK3A3Y3Es/TYDxANoUBhI/AAAAAAAAHiI/jtagqlxmKgs/s640/Sipahi+ve+Yeniceri.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Some Islamic ones:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Due to an arrow 3 people will go to heaven. The one who makes the arrow, the one who shoots it, and the one who gives the arrow to the shooter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Bir ok sebebiyle üç kişi cennete girer: Biri ok yapan, biri ok atan, biri de oku atanın eline veren)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;All games are unreasoned, only shooting arrows with a bow, training the horse and spend good time with your wife are not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Tüm oyunlar batıldır, ancak yay ile ok atmak, atı terbiye etmek ve hanımıyla oynaşmak günah değildir)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Some more proverbs which are used today, either about archery or about horses:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;A good horse is called bay/chestnut, a good man is called courageous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Atın iyisine doru, yiğidin iyisine deli derler)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;A bird without wings, a Turk without a horse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Kuş kanatsız, Türk atsız)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;3. The horse for the one who can ride, the sword for the one, who can use it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;t binenin, kılıç kuşananın)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;4. When the horse dies the arena stays, when the courageous person dies the fame/glory stays&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(At ölür meydan kalır, yiğit ölür şan kalır)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;5.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;The horse needs a saddle, the saddle needs a hero/brave man&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;(Ata eyer gerek, eyere yiğit gerek)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel="author" href="https://plus.google.com/102231529167207894658"&gt;Gokmen Altinkulp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-9175620066225832804?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/9175620066225832804/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/03/favourite-turkish-archery-quotes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/9175620066225832804'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/9175620066225832804'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2011/03/favourite-turkish-archery-quotes.html' title='Favourite Turkish archery quotes'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n1NK3A3Y3Es/TYDxANoUBhI/AAAAAAAAHiI/jtagqlxmKgs/s72-c/Sipahi+ve+Yeniceri.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-1083698357136550872</id><published>2010-11-30T06:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-30T14:00:07.904-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Visit to Turkish hornbow bowyer Cem Donmez Sept. 2010</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;In September 2010 I visited Turkey's famous bowyer Cem Donmez, who lives in Izmir.&amp;nbsp;We planned this shoot all year so I was really excited to shoot his bows and try my flight arrows. When you enter his workshop you see loads of buffalo horn, wood cut or uncut, sinew and hornbows finished or unfinished in various stages, hung to dry for example.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nXs8voBJbJk?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nXs8voBJbJk?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;We talked, brainstormed and shot the whole day. It is such a pleasure&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;to be under enthusiasts with the same/similar interest. The day is not&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;enough and at the end you think ''but there was so much more we wanted&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;to talk about..''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Below you will see some pictures from the shoot, also a picture from 2 flight arrows, one tarzı has, one şem endam. The şem endam's flight was very good, very straight and fast. Cem also made a copy of his own historical flight arrow, this one had a perfect flight as well. This time I didnt use a typical mushamma but used the cloth I use to wax my arrows. I could 'sculpt' it better around the grip and in my palm. Cem has prepared a new puta bow, he measured it a week before and it was more than 100 lbs at 28''. He also had another bow at around 75lbs. Note that these arent flight bows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We made similar experiences as last year. Correct arrows are very important. We have seen that 3 arrows out of 8 go straight without the slightest visible fishtailing, other arrows' flight were not stable. Also sometimes I didnt raise the arrow/bow high enough it seems. Also on some shots I didnt pull the arrow far enough in the siper. What I did though was this 'English longbow style' pushing the bow forward while shooting. I am not sure if it helps that much or if it is historically correct in the Ottoman style of flight shooting. I couldnt find any sources for this in the literature. (more information on the Turkish overdraw ''siper'')&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cem strung the strong bow a week beforehand and when I arrived it lost already power. I guess the hot weather contributed to that as well. In the end the strong bow was only about 75 pounds. Regarding the distance we could not exceed 310m even with the siper. Still it was very valuable for both of us, as I could shoot hornbows with siper and flight arrows and Cem could see the performance and characteristics of his bows when used.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;Gokmen Altinkulp&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;gokmenaltinkulp@gmail.com&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;twitter.com/gokmenaltinkulp&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TPVzh-lPSiI/AAAAAAAAHbs/tyd5nrGL0-c/s1600/Turkish-Hornbow-Bowyer.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TPVzh-lPSiI/AAAAAAAAHbs/tyd5nrGL0-c/s400/Turkish-Hornbow-Bowyer.JPG" width="300" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TPBGc9x0GyI/AAAAAAAAHbA/0HgFjUzqLIw/s1600/hornbow-bowyer-workshop.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TPBGc9x0GyI/AAAAAAAAHbA/0HgFjUzqLIw/s640/hornbow-bowyer-workshop.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Cem Donmez's workshop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TPBGf6BoFyI/AAAAAAAAHbE/l9sXLyMbtbM/s1600/Turkish+hornbow.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TPBGf6BoFyI/AAAAAAAAHbE/l9sXLyMbtbM/s640/Turkish+hornbow.JPG" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Hornbow with 'tepelik' getting ready to be strung&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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He is a &amp;nbsp;role model for me and many others not only for his deeds in Turkish archery but also with his character. He earns big respect as a true Ottoman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was one of the last famous Turkish bowyers/archers.&amp;nbsp;He took the name 'Okyay'.&amp;nbsp;Ok means arrow, yay means bow in Turkish. &amp;nbsp;Imagine his devotion to archery. He&amp;nbsp;learned&amp;nbsp;archery&amp;nbsp;from&amp;nbsp;Seyfeddin Efendi,&amp;nbsp;the archery teacher of Sultan Abdul Aziz (reigned 1861-1876). Later he was even allowed to use and repair the archery equipment in the Military Museum Istanbul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TM8xcF3i3MI/AAAAAAAAHXQ/zihPUalQ2OA/s1600/necmeddin+okyay+ok%C3%A7u+yayc%C4%B1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="285" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TM8xcF3i3MI/AAAAAAAAHXQ/zihPUalQ2OA/s400/necmeddin+okyay+ok%C3%A7u+yayc%C4%B1.JPG" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Necmettin Okyay inspecting a Turkish bow&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhJeaOfudI/AAAAAAAAHYA/SJtvkXPUXDU/s1600/Necmeddin+Okyay+turkish+archer.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="397" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhJeaOfudI/AAAAAAAAHYA/SJtvkXPUXDU/s400/Necmeddin+Okyay+turkish+archer.JPG" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;Necmeddin Okyay with a Turkish bow&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhfI_GHXhI/AAAAAAAAHYE/VF8Ove5h77M/s1600/Necmeddin+OKYAY+Turkish+Flight+archery.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhfI_GHXhI/AAAAAAAAHYE/VF8Ove5h77M/s400/Necmeddin+OKYAY+Turkish+Flight+archery.jpg" width="262" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;Famous picture where he demonstrates the full draw with a siper and according grip&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;He spent much time and effort to teach and promote this wonderful style of archery and our heritage. So today our group is not even the first group to revive Turkish archery. The first was founded in the 1930ies and fostered and encouraged by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and was called 'Okspor'. Necmeddin Okyay had students and taught them a lot of things about Ottoman archery and Turkish bows. Today no student lives anymore and it seems nobody of these passed their knowledge on. So sadly the line was broken and today we can only research&amp;nbsp;books.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TN_yvbWTLpI/AAAAAAAAHY8/_PloexObsuw/s1600/Okspor+Bet%25C3%25BCl+Or+Ok%25C3%25A7uluk.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="223" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TN_yvbWTLpI/AAAAAAAAHY8/_PloexObsuw/s400/Okspor+Bet%25C3%25BCl+Or+Ok%25C3%25A7uluk.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Okspor picture (Name of archer: Betul Or)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNlR_rBvT5I/AAAAAAAAHYM/oUJ_4qXsLQw/s1600/okspor+okyay+Turkish+archery.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="230" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNlR_rBvT5I/AAAAAAAAHYM/oUJ_4qXsLQw/s400/okspor+okyay+Turkish+archery.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;Necmeddin Okyay with fellow archers&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;What distinguishes Necmeddin particularly is that he researched, practiced and taught the old Turkish arts like&amp;nbsp;calligraphy, rose cultivating, ebru (Turkish paper marbling), archery and some more.&amp;nbsp;That is why he earned the title 'Hezarfen= person of 1000 sciences. For every art or science he had the best teachers of the Ottomans and he never stopped learning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Not only was he of utmost importance for the archers but also many other groups e.g. The Ebru makers.&amp;nbsp;He has been an ''ebru'' master (Turkish paper marbling-&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.muslimheritage.com/topics/default.cfm?ArticleID=530"&gt;http://www.muslimheritage.com/topics/default.cfm?ArticleID=530&lt;/a&gt;).&amp;nbsp;He developed a new style and technique which gained huge popularity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TM81ShPCk0I/AAAAAAAAHXU/R1S2VqNqxcs/s1600/Necmettin+okyay+ebru.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TM81ShPCk0I/AAAAAAAAHXU/R1S2VqNqxcs/s1600/Necmettin+okyay+ebru.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Floral Ebru by Necmettin Okyay&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhfYCQBk1I/AAAAAAAAHYI/qgKf0XO0eWg/s1600/Hattat+Necmeddin+Okyay+ok%C3%A7uluk.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhfYCQBk1I/AAAAAAAAHYI/qgKf0XO0eWg/s400/Hattat+Necmeddin+Okyay+ok%C3%A7uluk.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;"&gt;Necmeddin Okyay showing Ottoman Calligraphy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhJPuTfOMI/AAAAAAAAHX8/jS49yyzEsEw/s1600/Necmeddin+Okyay+G%C3%BCl.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TNhJPuTfOMI/AAAAAAAAHX8/jS49yyzEsEw/s400/Necmeddin+Okyay+G%C3%BCl.jpg" width="296" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;He grew roses as well. He had about 400 species of roses in his garden of which he knew all the latin names.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Last year archer friends in Turkey tried to find his house in Istanbul/Uskudar in Toygar Street, which is said to contain many many bows and archery treasures. Unfortunately our friends discovered that the original Ottoman house was demolished and a new apartment was build at its place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might think what has ebru, calligraphy, rose cultivation, poetry and archery in common.&amp;nbsp;Looking closely at Ottoman museum bows gives us an idea. Such a deadly weapon, but on it you can see floral designs in lively colours with gold applications. Beauty and power goes hand in hand, and both aspects are perfect and complement each other..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gokmen&lt;br /&gt;gokmenaltinkulp@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/GokmenAltinkulp"&gt;http://twitter.com/GokmenAltinkulp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-2129042337076477083?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/2129042337076477083/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2010/11/tribute-to-necmeddin-okyay.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/2129042337076477083'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/2129042337076477083'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2010/11/tribute-to-necmeddin-okyay.html' title='Tribute to Necmeddin Okyay'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TM8xcF3i3MI/AAAAAAAAHXQ/zihPUalQ2OA/s72-c/necmeddin+okyay+ok%C3%A7u+yayc%C4%B1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-2513137043267074276</id><published>2010-10-13T01:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-14T05:40:15.147-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thumbring'/><title type='text'>Making a thumbring that fits</title><content type='html'>The thumbring has been an integral piece of equipment of the Central Asian archery school. It is called 'zehgir' (Persian), 'shast' or 'okçu yüzüğü' (Turkish). Among others, horsearchers and archers of these cultures used it in various forms: Ottoman Turks, Seljuk Turks, Mongols, Persians, Tatars, Mameluks, Mughals, Romans, Koreans and Chinese.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJHKtGsw3I/AAAAAAAAHO0/LnzCjEZZIRg/s1600/iran+17-18+cc+jade+tourmaline+gold.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJHKtGsw3I/AAAAAAAAHO0/LnzCjEZZIRg/s320/iran+17-18+cc+jade+tourmaline+gold.jpg" width="245" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Iranian thumbring 17-18 cc, jade&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Advantages&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;The reasons are evident. As a first reason usually the fingerpinch is stated, which occurs with small bows the horsearchers use. Why did the Chinese/Manchu,&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;example, use the thumbdraw and thumbring? Their bows are relatively big.&amp;nbsp;And what about the Japanese thumbdraw and their Yumi?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;A release with&amp;nbsp;the thumbdraw technique and the thumbring is cleaner, smoother and faster than a 2 or 3 finger European release. When done properly, the release can be compared to a modern mechanical compound bow release. Sir Ralph Payne Gallwey describes the advantages of a thumbdraw and thumbring in a similar way in his treatise which he wrote more than 100 years ago. &lt;br /&gt;These thumbrings could be highly decorated as seen in these pictures and they could be permanently worn to distinguish oneself in Ottoman society as an elite archer. Note the ring on the thumb of Fatih Sultan Mehmed II, the Conqueror of Istanbul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJNSofvcUI/AAAAAAAAHO8/K_2XqakzvKw/s1600/ads%C4%B1z.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJNSofvcUI/AAAAAAAAHO8/K_2XqakzvKw/s320/ads%C4%B1z.bmp" width="216" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Fatih Sultan Mehmed II, the Conqueror&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKifzeG6OTI/AAAAAAAAHPw/QF3TjlvNmhE/s1600/IMG_1654.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKifzeG6OTI/AAAAAAAAHPw/QF3TjlvNmhE/s320/IMG_1654.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Ottoman thumbrings in Vienna,17th cc, jade&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Tests show us that the same archer achieves more speed with the arrow if the archer uses a thumbring and thumb release compared to a 3 finger release.&amp;nbsp;I see that a lot of European archers are very interested in this technique and the thumbring but they lack the knowledge to make one. You can buy some online but I have seen that these are more decoration than a functional thumbring. The best way to obtain a thumbring is to make one yourself. It has to fit perfectly, otherwise it will hurt you like a shoe that does not fit. You wouldn't order a shoe online would you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let me describe step by step how to make one. Be patient though, the first ones will be for the bin but will give you precious experience. This article will be about Ottoman thumbrings. This form of thumbring seems quite successful in history as the Persian, Mughal and Mongol thumbrings are very similar in shape. But even Ottoman thumbrings can differ in shape and size as you will see below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Materials for a thumbring&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best materials for thumbrings are ivory,&amp;nbsp;jade,&amp;nbsp;agate, bone, or walruss ivory. Horn is inferior as the material is softer and the thumbring can deform after a while. Metals such as bronze or silver were used as well and once you have a good original it is easy to copy it.&amp;nbsp;I do not advise antler.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKOzPmoJUDI/AAAAAAAAHPM/Jv3aILYtlV4/s1600/Adnan+abi+zihgir2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="160" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKOzPmoJUDI/AAAAAAAAHPM/Jv3aILYtlV4/s320/Adnan+abi+zihgir2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Historic bronze thumbring and replica silver thumbrings&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Nowadays it is hard to obtain ivory. For bows with drawweights of less than 70 lbs plexiglass can be used as well. We have had positive experience with a material called kestamid, which is a kind of polyamide. I lost my kestamid thumbring once and drove over it accidentally with the car; nothing happened, just minor scratches. I can use it for heavy bows of 90+ lbs draw weights.&amp;nbsp;For an Ottoman type thumbring get a block with at least 4,5 x 3 x 2 cm (1,8 x 1,2 x 0,8 inch). This full block should be good quality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKhVfPmFllI/AAAAAAAAHPY/3bNX_O8SszI/s1600/Zihgir+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="168" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKhVfPmFllI/AAAAAAAAHPY/3bNX_O8SszI/s200/Zihgir+1.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Kestamid block&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Making of a thumbring&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;First of all my special thanks and respect to Yıldırım Ekmekciler, a true thumbring master, who showed me patiently how to craft them. He made most of the thumbrings for the Turkish archery group in Turkey.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With a pen you can draw the simple outlines of the thumbring on the top and the sides.&amp;nbsp;We will cut these parts to save time, rather than starting to file down the whole block.&amp;nbsp;When you cut it, it should look similar to this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiJBMtrILI/AAAAAAAAHPc/8yyFPelDmWY/s1600/zihgir+blok+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="176" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiJBMtrILI/AAAAAAAAHPc/8yyFPelDmWY/s200/zihgir+blok+2.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiKacwxHjI/AAAAAAAAHPg/3BQGoiDcaVE/s1600/zihgir+blok3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="176" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiKacwxHjI/AAAAAAAAHPg/3BQGoiDcaVE/s200/zihgir+blok3.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Roughly cut kestamid block&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now you can drill a hole in the middle using a rather big drill bit. You can use the sides of the bit to make the hole a bit bigger but for now you can leave it small like in the picture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKo1Y7-_ytI/AAAAAAAAHP0/0LesmQQwwT4/s1600/zihgir+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="151" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKo1Y7-_ytI/AAAAAAAAHP0/0LesmQQwwT4/s200/zihgir+2.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now use a tool like "Dremel". Use a rough bit that will let you give a more typical thumbring shape. You could use a normal file as well.&amp;nbsp;Make the hole bigger now though be careful, leave it still much smaller than it would fit your thumb. The tricky part is now to make a fitting hole for your thumb. The hole is oval, it is not round. The ovalness is very slight though. In the end you should put it on, turn it 90 degrees and it should lock and fit comfortably.&amp;nbsp;The thickness of the sides and back can be 2-5mm depending on the material and the style.&amp;nbsp;The sides are not straight, they go a bit apart to fit the shape of the thumb, see picture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiSfJAgGSI/AAAAAAAAHPs/8uQYULeD8QQ/s1600/zihgir+1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiSfJAgGSI/AAAAAAAAHPs/8uQYULeD8QQ/s1600/zihgir+1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Thumbring form&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Work in turns a bit from the inside making the whole bigger, and&amp;nbsp;a bit from the outside.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKufmvlMWrI/AAAAAAAAHP4/TtVXlTQYTwk/s1600/zihgir+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKufmvlMWrI/AAAAAAAAHP4/TtVXlTQYTwk/s1600/zihgir+3.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you have done this, you can use a finer bit to give the final shape. Gradually use finer files/bits. When you are happy with the final shape you can polish it with another dremel bit and polishing paste&amp;nbsp;until it is nice and shiny. Alternatively you can rub in on a carpet in circular movements, this takes a bit longer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TLlxFmlHn2I/AAAAAAAAHQw/k50f85YjGQE/s1600/zihgir+4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="217" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TLlxFmlHn2I/AAAAAAAAHQw/k50f85YjGQE/s320/zihgir+4.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no notch by the way, the string rests on top of the ring as seen in the picture below.&amp;nbsp;The thumbring should not be too tight.Otherwise the string will not have enough space to sit on the edge of the ring and will go off without control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKcAZz_PWWI/AAAAAAAAHPU/gLKVXgPYLzo/s1600/zihgir+tutu%C5%9Fu.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="220" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKcAZz_PWWI/AAAAAAAAHPU/gLKVXgPYLzo/s320/zihgir+tutu%C5%9Fu.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Position of string on the thumbring&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare the two different Ottoman thumbring forms below. It is not really two types but two extremes and it shows how the angles can differ. The closer it is to type A the easier it can be to hold the lock in full draw. With type B the release can be cleaner as the string doesn't touch the ring again. With this type precious stones could be inserted as well as seen above without interfering with the string. An experienced archer can shoot both types with a clean release.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TLlzWSJz3OI/AAAAAAAAHQ8/GFVlgRNYBgQ/s1600/angle+thumbring4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="143" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TLlzWSJz3OI/AAAAAAAAHQ8/GFVlgRNYBgQ/s200/angle+thumbring4.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TLlzXE4su5I/AAAAAAAAHRA/cwd1RPAvO-o/s1600/angle+thumbring3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="143" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TLlzXE4su5I/AAAAAAAAHRA/cwd1RPAvO-o/s200/angle+thumbring3.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;A &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; B&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Leather piece&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To save the thumb when using heavy drawweights, an additional piece of leather could be glued to the inside of the thumbring as seen below on a museum thumbring. The leather is not used between the string and ring as stated wrongly in some literature. Instead it is placed between the string and thumb.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJLmcecWFI/AAAAAAAAHO4/tMlQGu9Dib8/s1600/Zihgir+detay.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJLmcecWFI/AAAAAAAAHO4/tMlQGu9Dib8/s1600/Zihgir+detay.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The size of your thumb changes according to weather conditions. In winter your thumbring might be too loose, in summer too tight.&amp;nbsp;I recommend having at least 2 thumbrings e.g. one for winter, one for summer. An alternative solution is using a trapezoid or triangular piece of leather. You can pull the thinner side through the thumbring on your thumb until the thumbring fits tightly, as a secondary benefit the leather will protect you from the string like the conventional leather piece above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiL3tqoDlI/AAAAAAAAHPk/BhNYflrBCvs/s1600/STA60459.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKiL3tqoDlI/AAAAAAAAHPk/BhNYflrBCvs/s320/STA60459.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I warned you the first ones will be for the bin so start with cheap material. Rather than making a few at a time, make one and shoot with it for&amp;nbsp;at least&amp;nbsp;a week to see how it fits and if there is any mistakes. Making a thumbring will take 2-10 hours depending on experience, material and tools. Feel free to contact me if you need help or advice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gokmen&lt;br /&gt;gokmenaltinkulp@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-2513137043267074276?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/2513137043267074276/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2010/10/making-thumbring-that-fits.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/2513137043267074276'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/2513137043267074276'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2010/10/making-thumbring-that-fits.html' title='Making a thumbring that fits'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TKJHKtGsw3I/AAAAAAAAHO0/LnzCjEZZIRg/s72-c/iran+17-18+cc+jade+tourmaline+gold.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-1250024309358656452</id><published>2010-03-25T10:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-08T01:49:48.512-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thumbring training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery exercises'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery muscles'/><title type='text'>Archery Exercises</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Why archery exercises?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Different archery cultures like the Ottoman, Iranian or Chinese&lt;br /&gt;describe archery exercises. Main reasons are:&lt;br /&gt;-To prevent injuries,&lt;br /&gt;-To pull your bow easier,&lt;br /&gt;-Being able to use heavier bows,&lt;br /&gt;-Being able to hold your bow steadier when aiming&lt;br /&gt;-To create muscle memory to pull the bow always in the same manner to&lt;br /&gt;the same anchor point with the same technique automatically&lt;br /&gt;And besides it is great satisfaction after a successful training when&lt;br /&gt;you sit down and drink your ‘keyif’ (relaxation) Turkish coffee.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="364" width="445"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/J1elaiu6aRc&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/J1elaiu6aRc&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt; Warming up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Warming up is very very important because what good is it if you&lt;br /&gt;injure your muscle and stop all training for 6 months? Main pressure&lt;br /&gt;points=injury points are the sinew at the ellbow and shoulders.&lt;br /&gt;First warm up your whole body by e.g. jogging, skipping ropes, (or&lt;br /&gt;shadderboxing) or gymnastics. Then you have to warm up and pump up&lt;br /&gt;your relevant archery muscles. Like a butterfly that just left the&lt;br /&gt;cocoon that is pumping air in its wings to make them stable you have&lt;br /&gt;to allow your blood to flow in the relevant muscles. This will take a&lt;br /&gt;while but it will make your whole body more stable and stronger.&lt;br /&gt;You can start pulling a low poundage bow, do a few repetitions pause&lt;br /&gt;for 2 mins then do a lot of repetitions. You see I do not give&lt;br /&gt;numbers, everybody has to assess for him/herself what is low, medium,&lt;br /&gt;a lot and maximum repetitions. The same with the term heavy bow and&lt;br /&gt;low poundage bow.&lt;br /&gt;Do a few sets of these until your muscles are burning. At this stage I&lt;br /&gt;pull the string with my whole hand. You can use a piece of leather or&lt;br /&gt;a sock to protect your hand.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; Then continue with the heavy bow. Pull the bow 1/3rd a few times,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; pause for a minute, pull it half way a few times and pause again&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; (leave the blood enough time to travel up to your shoulders), then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; pull successively until full drawlength. The technique has to be&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; right, you pull with your back muscles supported by the triceps of the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; bow arm and by both shoulders. You do NOT use the biceps of your&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; pulling arm. I still see ‘experienced’ archers doing this mistake&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; pulling with the biceps. A friend can test this by touching your&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; biceps with a finger while you pull; it should be soft.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;I advise to stand in front of a mirror so you can see and correct your&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;technique and positions. Keep your ellbows high.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; Now you should be warm.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; The best is to have several bows in dfferent poundages, you can&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; meet up as well with fellow archers as described in an Ottoman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt; training article. If you don't have other bows available you can bind&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;elastic band around the bow as seen in the picture below. The draw&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;weight is controlled by how many times you wrap the elastic around the bow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TCEvXC-l32I/AAAAAAAAHKU/DvXRPy5Uyp8/s320/STA60130.JPG" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;1. Exercises with the bow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basic pulling directions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. basic pulling to the left side horizontally&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;2. Pulling to the back horizontally (as far as possible)&lt;br /&gt;3. Pulling to the right side horizontally (as far as possible)&lt;br /&gt;4. Pulling to the front&lt;br /&gt;5. bend upper body forward parallel to floor twist upper body up and&lt;br /&gt;pull upwards (training for kabak shooting)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;bend upper body forward parallel to floor and pull to the side&lt;br /&gt;7. put the left fist on your left foot, keep your legs straight and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;pull the bow downwards&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;8. Turn back and pull the bow down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;9. Pull with other hand&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;10. Jarmaki pull&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI6qnqKJEI/AAAAAAAAHLI/W9YpIcALev4/s1600/STA60145.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI6qnqKJEI/AAAAAAAAHLI/W9YpIcALev4/s320/STA60145.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;1. basic pulling to the side horizontally&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI7-ZS6PAI/AAAAAAAAHLQ/q0RYcmmPNAw/s1600/STA60151.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI7-ZS6PAI/AAAAAAAAHLQ/q0RYcmmPNAw/s320/STA60151.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;2. Pulling to the back horizontally (as far as possible)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI84dX8syI/AAAAAAAAHLU/C9GJht4qKMw/s1600/STA60148.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI84dX8syI/AAAAAAAAHLU/C9GJht4qKMw/s320/STA60148.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;3. Pulling to the right side horizontally (as far as possible)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI7Dk-RpNI/AAAAAAAAHLM/98Ez_vKT_ZQ/s1600/STA60147.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI7Dk-RpNI/AAAAAAAAHLM/98Ez_vKT_ZQ/s320/STA60147.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;4. Pulling to the front&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI9T-JgY0I/AAAAAAAAHLY/1ui1ePF3AWM/s1600/STA60150.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI9T-JgY0I/AAAAAAAAHLY/1ui1ePF3AWM/s320/STA60150.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;5. bend upper body forward parallel to floor twist upper body up and&lt;br /&gt;pull upwards (training for kabak shooting)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI9kS-T4-I/AAAAAAAAHLc/GuDHpxGdlXM/s1600/STA60154.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI9kS-T4-I/AAAAAAAAHLc/GuDHpxGdlXM/s320/STA60154.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;bend upper body forward parallel to floor and pull to the side.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI9vewhT9I/AAAAAAAAHLg/hTAfa88nDWc/s1600/STA60158.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI9vewhT9I/AAAAAAAAHLg/hTAfa88nDWc/s320/STA60158.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;7. put the left fist on your left foot, keep your legs straight and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;pull the bow downwards&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI_pmkhiZI/AAAAAAAAHLk/zNS9P09zo4o/s1600/STA60161.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDI_pmkhiZI/AAAAAAAAHLk/zNS9P09zo4o/s320/STA60161.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight: normal;"&gt;8. Turn back and pull the bow down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDJAAqBIvWI/AAAAAAAAHLo/EHXXVHIPhCY/s1600/STA60159.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDJAAqBIvWI/AAAAAAAAHLo/EHXXVHIPhCY/s320/STA60159.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;9. Pull with other hand&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDJAVB-JQtI/AAAAAAAAHLs/dOBw2Yza1QE/s1600/STA60162.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TDJAVB-JQtI/AAAAAAAAHLs/dOBw2Yza1QE/s320/STA60162.JPG" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;10. Jarmaki pull&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Variations:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a) Pull the bow very slowly (variaton: pull it in 7 times and back in 7 times)&lt;br /&gt;b) Pull the bow as quickly as possible one after the other&lt;br /&gt;c) Pull the bow with the other hand (horsearchers used to be able to&lt;br /&gt;shoot with right and left arm)&lt;br /&gt;d) In order to simulate horseback riding, jump from one foot to the&lt;br /&gt;other quickly doing the exercises or run while pulling if you have&lt;br /&gt;space&lt;br /&gt;e) while pulling go from one position/direction to the other e.g.&lt;br /&gt;start pulling backwards then slowly turn after each pull and continue&lt;br /&gt;pulling to the front then right&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Horsearchers need to shoot in every direction, thus the different&lt;br /&gt;directions above. Flightarchers just need a certain angle and dont&lt;br /&gt;really need to shoot e.g.backwards or downwards.&lt;br /&gt;Remember the bend should come from the hip, the ‘T’-position (=angle&lt;br /&gt;between spine and shoulders) should be maintained at all times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a few sets doing 50% of your maximum repetitions start pulling&lt;br /&gt;until exhaustion, have a longer pause e.g. 5 mins and continue&lt;br /&gt;pulling until exhaustion. Do as many sets as you can/wish, the heavy&lt;br /&gt;poundage-exhaustion sets should be at least 4. Be careful though as&lt;br /&gt;your muscles get more tired the risk of injury increases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the shooting yard, you can do similar exercises (I would recommend&lt;br /&gt;to do them at the end of the training):&lt;br /&gt;-While the arrow is nocked, draw the bow 10 times before you shoot and&lt;br /&gt;aim each time at the target&lt;br /&gt;-The arrow nocked, pull the bow 15cm pause pull another 15 cm etc&lt;br /&gt;until full drawlength then shoot.&lt;br /&gt;-Pull the bow directly to full drawlenght and hold e.g. 10, 20 seconds&lt;br /&gt;before you release the arrow (dont break the bow)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt; Training your thumb&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You should train your thumb too as you will see that after a certain&lt;br /&gt;poundage it will get more difficult to keep the thumb lock. You can do&lt;br /&gt;the pulling exercises described above with a thumbring. Pulling the&lt;br /&gt;string with a thumbring without a nocked arrow is not advised as the&lt;br /&gt;dryfire risk is too high and the lock might slip on the string. The&lt;br /&gt;old Turks used to have a special arrow with a hole near the nock. They&lt;br /&gt;would put the string through the hole and then string the bow, so that&lt;br /&gt;the arrow is locked with the string. In case the thumb lock releases&lt;br /&gt;accidentally there wont be dryfire.&lt;br /&gt;Instead of this method you can stand in front of a target with a&lt;br /&gt;normal arrow nocked doing the same exercises.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt; 2. Exercises without the bow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can do additional weight training to train these muscles:&lt;br /&gt;Deltoid (rear shoulder)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Trapezius (upper back)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Infraspinatus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Latissimus &lt;br /&gt;Triceps&lt;br /&gt;Neck&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do a second sport next to archery, many archery athletes in the&lt;br /&gt;Ottoman Empire were wrestlers at the same time or e.g. went swimming&lt;br /&gt;often.&lt;br /&gt;Don't neglect your leg muscles, they are important to have a stable&lt;br /&gt;position while aiming and of course for horseriding. Do sports that&lt;br /&gt;will let you sweat so you won't get too stiff with all the muscle&lt;br /&gt;training e.g. jogging, boxing, swimming, wrestling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt; Diet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course you need proteins to build muscles, so low fat meat like&lt;br /&gt;chicken, turkey, fish is fine. Dont forget the carbonhydrates though&lt;br /&gt;and a lot of fresh vegetables and fruits and drink a lot. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Mixing honey and olive oil as a food supplement is advised in the old texts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;I tried it as well but my personal favourite is the Turkish ''Helva'', it is made&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;of sesame and is very rich&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;The exercises described above are not comparable to standard bodybuilding&lt;br /&gt;in the gym; while doing few pulls with very high poundages, you also&lt;br /&gt;pull medium to lower poundages until exhaustion. A historic&lt;br /&gt;(horse)archer would need to use his muscles maybe for hours in the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;battlefield. A Turkish flight archer would not shoot many arrows but still&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;they describe exercises with a lot of repetitions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt; A typical training week&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You should not use heavy bows and train until exhaustion every day but&lt;br /&gt;only every second or even third day as it is hard training and your&lt;br /&gt;body needs to recover. Monday Wednesday Friday can be the hard days&lt;br /&gt;and the other days can be days where you do normal (horse)archery or&lt;br /&gt;do other sports or train with low poundage bows with a lot of&lt;br /&gt;repetitions. Even resting and doing nothing for a day is good&lt;br /&gt;sometimes. But beware, you need to train regularly and disciplined; it&lt;br /&gt;is written that the old Turkish archers said: if you leave archery one&lt;br /&gt;day, archery will leave you 10 days. With proper training good results&lt;br /&gt;can be achieved in a short time, but if the break is too long the drop&lt;br /&gt;in performance will be huge and the risk of injury will increase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt; Last tips at the end&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Keep your muscles warm at all times, day and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;night. Be careful when you are sleeping, don't sleep on your shoulder &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;or arm. A famous Turkish flight archer champion had guards standing &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;at his bed at night time just to prevent him from sleeping on his arm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;Gokmen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;gokmenaltinkulp@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-1250024309358656452?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/1250024309358656452/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2010/03/archery-exercises.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/1250024309358656452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/1250024309358656452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2010/03/archery-exercises.html' title='Archery Exercises'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/TCEvXC-l32I/AAAAAAAAHKU/DvXRPy5Uyp8/s72-c/STA60130.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1583801631288479459.post-4263505742868404741</id><published>2009-08-10T00:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-30T06:25:35.985-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Turkish archery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='archery exercises'/><title type='text'>Flight archery training with overdraw siper</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_P4V4oF1I/AAAAAAAAGfY/lB-e0wk1eXs/s1600-h/siper+6.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Siper ile menzil atışı antrenmanı - Flight archery training with overdraw siper&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The siper (Turkish overdraw) is used to draw the flight arrow behind the grip which allows to shoot shorter and lighter arrows which travel further of course...&lt;br /&gt;Typical flight arrows can weigh about 11, 12, 13 gram and can be e.g. 61, 62, 63 cm long. The grip is not held in the typical Turkish form, usually a cloth with wax is wrapped around the grip of the flight bow and the ''cengi bazi' grip is applied.&lt;br /&gt;The difficulty is to hold the thumbring in the right angle and not to put too much pressure on the arrow with your index finger, because with the lightest pressure the arrow will come out of the siper and you will shoot the grip. So it is very dangerous. The real challenge is to do this with 120 + pound flight bows... What you see here is just training with a 45 lbs bow.&lt;br /&gt;Feel free to comment or ask questions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;object height="364" width="445"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/VH5a8fYigWc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/VH5a8fYigWc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Shooting Turkish style&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here you can see some museum pictures of historic sipers:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Turkish overdraw siper" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5368237476109254194" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_PitlufjI/AAAAAAAAGfI/lfxuYR0zJLg/s320/siper.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 199px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center; width: 241px;" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_P4V4oF1I/AAAAAAAAGfY/lB-e0wk1eXs/s1600-h/siper+6.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="Overdraw for Turkish Archery" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5368237847703197522" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_P4V4oF1I/AAAAAAAAGfY/lB-e0wk1eXs/s320/siper+6.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 240px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center; width: 320px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_PuanZplI/AAAAAAAAGfQ/uBlqN6Hk5bg/s1600-h/siper+1.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="Turkish overdraw siper for Flight archery" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5368237677174433362" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_PuanZplI/AAAAAAAAGfQ/uBlqN6Hk5bg/s320/siper+1.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 240px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center; width: 320px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_PitlufjI/AAAAAAAAGfI/lfxuYR0zJLg/s1600-h/siper.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5368235541000386818" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_NyEv0eQI/AAAAAAAAGfA/2mdq2oxSUOo/s320/1995-0422-siper.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 208px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center; width: 320px;" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1583801631288479459-4263505742868404741?l=turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/feeds/4263505742868404741/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2009/08/siper-ile-menzil-ats-antrenman-flight.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/4263505742868404741'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1583801631288479459/posts/default/4263505742868404741'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://turkishflightarchery.blogspot.com/2009/08/siper-ile-menzil-ats-antrenman-flight.html' title='Flight archery training with overdraw siper'/><author><name>Gökmen Altınkulp</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/102231529167207894658</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dL-Q8gRXCGk/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAIGg/UIFbhm52kMM/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BTxj12QWUhg/Sn_PitlufjI/AAAAAAAAGfI/lfxuYR0zJLg/s72-c/siper.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
